Well... was never a Gruden fan myself either - much more a John Madden kind of guy. And yes, I know I am dating myself here. Also, given that we just ditched a whole bunch of previous second round picks lately my faith in the draft prowess of this group isn't high. Kill the late round and UDFAs but man, second round (other than Carr) has been brutal lately - that was was even before Gruden was around to mess it up ala Tampa Bay. Not feeling it right now...