pledosophy Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 So I wimped out. I bought the Eco System mod and holder. But WOW. That is nice. Wide spread flow and a ton of it. I'm not really so stoked on the holder, want to get a magnet so i can place it where I want it, but am quite pleased with the pre built mod kit. Plug and play, was done, worked great. Took me like 30 seconds. My fish were a bit leary day one but now they are out in the flow. Quite stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Did you get the sure flow 1600's? Very nice kits, you should not be disappointed. I'm considering having a few around in case a mj mod I did fails, my only real issue with these are the shafts go out about once a year on one of them, I want to see one of those run before I buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Can you get us some pics or a short video? I'm considering the Sure Flow 1600's too. Main reason is I've broken 2 impeller magnets and they are almost as much as buying the entire mod, which comes with a new magnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Can these be run with a wavemaker pro from redsea? I think I have another wavemaker somewhere in a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think it depends on the stopper. The prop has to shoot out of the pump, hit the stopper, and get sucked back in to the pump at startup since they do not start the same way each time. I've seen some people incorporate a piece of fishing line as the stopper. Since that doesn't damage the prop it works on a wavemaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 I got this one. http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~SearchStr~~action~view~idProduct~EC4111~idCategory~FIPHAC~category~Ecosystem_Aquarium_ECOMOD_Maxi_Jet_Pump_Modification_Kit_Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies_Powerheads_Accessories~vendor~.html After googling the other one sounds like I got hosed. I don't like the Ecosystem holder. It pushes the pump to far down in the tank. It has to be a foot down in the system and while you can turn it side to side, you can't control the angle. Seems like it would have been easy to make the screw holder able to screw onto the bottom piece to increase some versatility, but hey, I'm not an engineer. The sureflow holder seems better but I really want to copy Miles magnet holder so I can change the angle. I need to Mod something, the thing now is freaking ugly. I'm not one to trust the suction cups with that kind of flow anyhoo. If it falls, that could mean the death of a coral or clam, huge stand storm, not cool. Sorry Leng and Len (I know them both personally) but the design is not so cool. I don't think the one I got could be used on a wavemaker. I have one of the American DJ powerstrips and normally turn off the pumps for water changes and sometimes for feeding. The MJ Mod has already frozen on me once out of the four times I turned it off. It's simple to fix just take off and put back on to release the magnet, the same way the old Eclipse system filters were (who remembers those) but not so good with a waver maker. I was kinda hoping to put two on a timer on one hour rotations, maybe the newer ones would be better. I really like Ecosystem as a company. They are nice people and give good products IME. For the cost for us DIY challenged I think it was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sorry Miles I have no ability to do a video. For someone who is a photographer by profession, you'd think I'd take more pics, but alas a mechanics car never runs and I hate picking up a camera at home. I'll get to it for ya though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I am curious to, I am happy with the 4 I have but always looking for a new system to simplify the current DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 My only problem was getting the endcap centered when we DIY'd them. Since these are injection molded there isn't a problem with lining things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 true, till you came up with the airplane wheel trick , I think the two things that cause the DIY not to work that I have sorted was off centering, as we just spoke about, and friction at the base of the unit where the crush washer is. Both are easily fixed. Remind me when you come over and I will rip one apart for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'll bring mine, see if you can't get it centered better than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Mine has finally settled in after I shortened the shroud a mite. The shaft kept coming loose all the time before. It's been doing great for a while now. I will order one of those "commercial" mods to try out in the cube one of these days, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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