Frank Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The new tank is up and running but I have a few issues. (flame) The first is Bryopsis; DOH! it came from my 40gallon breeder and is in the 150 now. I need to know what eats it???? The second is one many of you have previously seen in my tank, (I thought I had got rid of them) but they are back! Majano anemones! (threaten) I don't want to break the tank down... so after a bit of research it looks like I am going to try a small Racoon Butterfly (scary) .....any thoughts? Here are some other fish that are suppose to be good for this issue....which one would you try? Double saddle butterfly fish Bristletail filefish Klein’s Butterflies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytshall Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 pests Well I had a ton of them in my tank when I first got it. I was able to kill them off the rock by drying it out and then soaking in fresh water and freezing. If the fish doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Frank, shoot Kevin of Aloha Corals a PM, he's organizing a hawaiian fish group buy, with some AWESOME prices, and I believe I saw a list of butterfly's on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpunk Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 sometimes hair algae can be taken care of by simply pulling it out and running heavy phosban(or similar) for a prolonged period to starve it out. You have such a little amount that's what I would say to do. Couldn't hurt to go a little overkill on the blue legged hemits and scarlet's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 LOL I have to admit I had to look up Bryopsis.(scratch) Using big words won't make the problem go away Frank.(nono) Just call it hair algae!(laugh) A sea hare worked great for us until the little guy tried to clean the powerhead.(sad) I hear they don't live long because they will starve so I was planning to just pass the little guy along. Isaac had mentioned some hardier sea hares. The Klein butterfly is pretty hardy from what I have heard and read and is more reef safe than the double saddle butterfly. I don't know much about the filefish. From what I read about the Raccoon butterfly this is also not a reef safe fish. I would go with the Klein butterfly or find another way to kill those Majanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 if it's hair algae couldn't you just get a sea hare or 2? Nick at Rose City usually has them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 After doing some more reading I think Im going to go with the Klein’s Butterflies first if I can find one if not then a Bristletail filefish...... So if anyone know where one is at let me know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danik Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 it's a never ending battle Frank. my sand finally looks better. i did get 200 hermits from wet pets Hawaii and it kept all my algae down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsonmfg Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hawaiian Zebra hermits seem to work really good... another solution is to crank up your mag for a few weeks. That should kill most of it without having to add any fish that you'll later want to remove if you building a reef. Raccoon's can be pretty evil little bastards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisW Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Frank, is it bryopsis or hair algae? If bryopsios, try the increased Mg levels. Check it out on RC. As far as majono go, remember that butterfly fish in a reef are a HUGH risk. Make sure you're ready to try and get the fish out if/when it starts eating the good things. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePremiumAquarium Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Frank, if you decide to go for a fish that may eat the Mojanos, I would try the file fish. They are way easier to remove than the butterflies and in my experience the aiptasia eating variety never messed with any corals or larger inverts. Mine would pick at small inverts like hermits and small snails. This may be a contradictory sp. to your bryopsis problem if it eats the critters that eat the algae but maybe you could attack them in an order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Is it just me or is this thread now starting to remind anyone about a nursery rhyme?(scratch) I don't know why she swallowed the fly......(whistle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy-S Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 bryopsis can be controlled with mg search rc there are some great threads on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yah for bryopsis you need to increase MG, but there is a specific additive that people are using to raise their MG that has shown success in getting rid of bryopsis. Its Kent's Tech-M. Other MG additives haven't been successful like Tech-M has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algae Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Tech M will work with bryopsis. It is kinda spendy at $30 gal. Use the link for dosing in the Chemistry section that Lowman posted (Bob also did/is doing Mag dosing). The mag IME will creep up on you. You can be dinking along at 1300 and all of a sudden you get 1850 a few days later. Use a good Mag tester (Salifert). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanktop74 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Is it just me or is this thread now starting to remind anyone about a nursery rhyme?(scratch) I don't know why she swallowed the fly......(whistle) Its good to see you back Emerald525 with your phrases that make me laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Its good to see you back Emerald525 with your phrases that make me laugh! Thanks feels good to be back and glad someone appreciates my entertaining(IMO) but useless threads!(laugh) Sorry Frank,I will stop hijacking your thread!(backtotopic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Ok it looks like the Klein’s Butterflies win now I just have to find one.... It is bryopsios, so I will try the increased Mg levels.... Thanks for everyone's help Beth you can hijack my thread any time glad to have you back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 That sucks Frank. IME raising MG with Tech M does work. I have tried it with other products and not been succsessful. Still try to pull all you can out by hand. If you do it for 10 minutes a day, there won't be to much left for the MG to kill. Controlling the Nems would be similar, just glue a drop of glue for 10 minutes a day or so on each one. I do think the butterfly fish are pretty and some have had good results keeping them long term. IIRC you will need to cut back on feeding the tank so the fish is hungry enough to go after the nems, that is if it acts similiarly to other butterfly fish. JME HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Ok it looks like the Klein’s Butterflies win now I just have to find one.... It is bryopsios, so I will try the increased Mg levels.... Thanks for everyone's help Beth you can hijack my thread any time glad to have you back.... LOL Frank did you do that on purpose? Did you not read my signature? LOL this is Kim not Beth!(laugh) I'm glad to be back. I missed this place! I was getting more done at work though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batchelor Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 hey frank, i think peppermint shrimp will eat aiptaisia. at least according to bluezooaquatics.com they do. you might want to try them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsonmfg Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I've used Pep's before and they do work, they also can go after things like Zoa's and other stuff after the aptasia's all gone. Super glue and couple small pieces of frag epoxy works the best. Aptaisa X also worked really well for me. I'd just avoid putting any animal in there that you don't want to keep. Most things that eat aptasia are hit or miss and then usually turn into a total PITA to remove and will eventually bother corals and other inverts when they run out of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kshack Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hey Frank, Check this out. If you can talk him into selling you one you could rent it out to other members to recoup your cost (or trade for frags). http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1808040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Re: New tank new problems.... I had bad experiences with peppermints after they ate aptasia they ate hammer, frogspawn, and others Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I would go Kleins Butterfly too. If you can't find a LFS to get you one... Aloha Corals has them listed now too. Yeah, go elevated Mg for the byropsis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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